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Thoughts for the Day….
“Do not say a little in
many words, but a lot in a few”. --- Pythagorus
“We can not direct the wind, but we can adjust the sails”. --- Bertha
Contact Info for Chapter 5 Officers 2008-2009: Click Here
Chapter 5 Committee Chairs for 2008-2009
Public Relations/ Education – John Pierce, RPLS
Membership – Richard Ortiz
Audit – John Pierce, RPLS
Nominating – Raul Wong, Jr., PE, RPLS
Programs – Chris Freeman, RPLS
Ten Questions with
Wayne Terry R.P.L.S., L.S.L.S.
This month’s guest is Wayne Terry, the 1st
Vice President for Chapter 5. Wayne is the Survey Manager for
R-Delta Engineers, Inc.
How long have you been involved in the land surveying
What originally attracted you to the profession?
I was studying mathematics and found a job doing survey
calculations while in school.
What do you see as the greatest benefit to being a TSPS
For me the greatest benefit for being part of TSPS is the
association with other professionals where I can stay current on aspects of
the profession where I don’t normally practice.
What is the biggest challenge facing the profession?
Lack of real leadership. I could go on and on about this topic.
This is how we allowed ourselves to be one of the few professions required
to collect sales taxes.
What is the biggest challenge for TSPS as an
association, and for surveyors as professionals?
One must either assume that the challenges for TSPS and surveyors
are synonymous or this question must be answered in two parts. I think that
there are differing challenges facing the association and the profession.
A. Our association needs to define the benefit we offer to the
community succinctly and get the message out to our colleagues, para-professionals
and the general consuming community if we are going to be effective and
B. The profession needs to broaden our definition of surveying to
include more of what we are good at doing and not just limit ourselves to
the limited role of being property line locators. Look at the firm where
you work. This broad view of the role of surveying offers the greatest hope
for a prosperous future.
Why did you pursue your LSLS?
Larry Ferguson, RPLS took a class with Ben Thompson who was
promoting the LSLS. Larry, who was working for me at the time, thought that
I would do well and after some consideration and a visit with Ben I decided
that it would fit with my personal value system. One of my core values is
to be a lifelong learner and this seemed like the next step in a natural
progression within our profession.
What is the most interesting survey you ever worked on?
The next one! They are all exciting. We just found a vacancy in a
suburban area. It may not be the most interesting but it is the one on
which I am currently working so it wins today.
How do we encourage the professional non-member to
participate and join TSPS?
Be excited ourselves. Excitement is contagious. If we are not
alive with enthusiasm about surveying we cannot hope to attract anyone.
If you could change one thing about the survey
profession, what would it be, and why?
I would eliminate the sales tax on professional surveying
services. I don’t understand how to determine when it is to be collected
and everyone I talk with has a different view, but we all agree that it
should not exist.
Do you foresee the day when surveyors won’t be
The only way we will become extinct is if we quit being
professionals and start allowing the market place to define who we are.
They will categorize surveying as a trade or make it a para-profession to
engineering or some other accepted profession. Surveyors need to be
professional in order to be recognized as a profession and only then will we
be considered an essential and integral part of the real estate sector of
Duncanville H.S. Survey
Chapter 5 reps will visit the school to
donate the survey equipment that was collectively donated by ARS Engineers,
Inc. and Midwest A&E, and checked and calibrated with funds from Chapter 5.
You, too, can assist this exciting and growing high school program…visit the
school and answer their questions, assist with field and theory instruction,
donate used equipment and survey related magazines. Try to be part of the solution by offering your time and
knowledge to these very motivated students at Duncanville High School. To
find out how you and/or your firm can assist in these efforts, contact John
firstname.lastname@example.org or Tim Jackson
Tim Jackson is devoting an hour or so
once a week to visit with the survey students at Duncanville High School to
assist them in their understanding of surveying, and to practice field
procedures in preparation for competition in February. The students are
ecstatic to have Tim as a weekly visitor, as it helps them better understand
the “big picture”, and getting direction from a professional ensures they
will learn their field procedures and skills correctly. Hats off to Tim for
his dedication….just think how far the students could progress with several
North Lake College Survey
Classes…New Offerings for Spring 2009
Courses to be offered at the West Campus (DFW ED Center) in
the Spring Semester 2009. Class day of the week and times have not yet been
determined. Please encourage your paraprofessional staff to consider one of
these college credit courses, which qualify for the TBPLS requirement of 32
survey related college credit hours.
SRVY 1301 Introduction to Surveying (2 hr.
lecture, 3 hr. lab, 3 credit hours)
An overview of the surveying profession. The
history of surveying and its impact on the world. Review of the mathematics
used in surveying. Introduction to basic surveying equipment with emphasis
on measurements. Instruction on surveying procedures and the limitation of
errors. Calculation to determine precision and error of closure.
Prerequisite: SRVY 1315 or must be taken at same time.
SRVY 1309 Surveying Measurements (2 hr.
lecture, 3 hr. lab, 3 credit hours)
An introductory course covering the equipment
and hardware of the profession necessary to measure horizontal and vertical
distances, in accordance with prevailing and applicable professional
standards, e.g. standards of the National Geodetic Survey, state and local
statues and regulations, professional standards, such as the Texas Society
of Professional Surveyors. Prerequisite: SRVY 1301 and SRVY 1315
SRVY 1315 Surveying Calculations (3 hr.
lecture, 3 credit hours)
An induction to the mathematics used in
surveying and mapping, including algebra, plane trigonometry and plane,
solid, and analytical geometry. Prerequisite: None
SRVY 1335 Land Surveying Applications (2 hr.
lecture, 3 hr. lab, 3 credit hours)
A lab course covering the equipment, techniques
and hardware of the profession necessary to measure horizontal and vertical
angles and distances used in traversing, according to prevailing and
applicable standards. Prerequisite: SRVY 1309
SRVY 2305 Geographic Information Systems
Applications (2 hr. lecture, 4 hr. lab, 3 credit hours)
A hands-on course with computer applications
providing additional conceptual understanding of geographic information
systems and practical applications using a variety of Geographic Information
System software. Prerequisite: SRVY 1301 and SRVY 1315
SRVY 2331 Geodetic Surveying and Mapping (2
hr. lecture, 3 hr. lab, 3 credit hours)
A study of field astronomy, Polaris and solar
observations, State Plane Coordinate Systems, and Global Positioning System.
Prerequisite: SRVY 1301 and SRVY 1315
In the Rearview
---Library Survey Display
Chapter 5 members coordinated a display in the lobby of
Garland Nicholson Library in downtown Garland form October 6-October
31. Contributors included Martha Compton, Raul Wong, Glenn Breysacher,
John Pierce, Robert Schneeberg, John Nicholson, Tim Jackson, Bill Johnson,
Jr., Wayne Terry, and Chris Freeman. An array of survey items
were on display including maps, aerial photographs, survey instruments and
tools, drafting tools, a laser scanner, hand held GPS units, text books,
magazines, and TSPS materials. The Display was highlighted on the TSPS
website, and efforts to provide additional displays throughout the Metroplex
are under way. If you have a minute to stop at your area Library to offer
the availability of a TSPS Dallas Chapter 5 Survey Display, contact Chris
Freeman for ideas, assistance, etc.
Garland City Surveyor and Chapter 5 member Glenn Breysacher was
invited to provide the
Garland Landmark Society a presentation at their October 6th
meeting. The topic was, “How does history/historical
documents/places/things intertwine and play a part in professional
Glenn gave a presentation on two
projects to demonstrate this. The first involved reconstructing Block 12 of
the Original Town of Duck Creek (Garland’s former name) from original
exterior and interior building corners, columns, and walls of existing
structures dating back to the late 1800s. The key evidence being a deed
which mentioned the northeast corner of “Mrs. Murphree’s brick store”, and
also the mentioning of the adjacent alley abandonment that took place six
days prior to the writing of the deed. Since the City of Garland’s records
only go back to 1918 (earlier records are missing/lost), this historic
document was vital to proving the abandonment occurred.
Once the Block was constructed, the
distance going west to Block 10 (where Glenn was also currently working on a
different survey project) checked to within 0.07’ of the called distance on
the original plat from 1887.
The other project discussed was a survey
that involved a common abstract/survey line. In trying to determine where
that original survey line was, Glenn obtained the original 1844 and 1850
field notes from the GLO. He then calculated a search tie for the
bearing/witness trees and eventually found one. It was a 45” pecan that is
approximately 250 years old. The tree will be placed on the local register
of Dallas County historic and heritage trees, as well as being described by
location and coordinates so that others visiting the area can see it. The
tree is on private property and the details of it’s preservation is being
worked out at this time. This project may be a future Chapter meeting
you didn’t know that……
The Cemetary Oak,
at an estimated 150-200 years of age, is a Shumard Red Oak in the cemetery
at the northeasterly corner of Garland and Miller Roads, and is likely the
oldest living thing in Garland. Beneath the tree’s canopy, now 95 feet in
diameter, mourners once tied their horses at a
hitching post. The quercus shumardii is certified by the
Forest Service as Metroplex Champion, which means it is the largest specimen
in Dallas, Tarrant, and adjoining counties, 10 in all.
Technician exam prep classes continue…..
Beginning with the May monthly
meeting, the Dallas Chapter began offering Certified Survey Technician
Level I and Level II examination prep sessions prior to every monthly
meeting. John Pierce leads this effort, to be held prior to
regular monthly Chapter meetings at the Cantina Laredo Restaurant
(southeast corner of Inwood Road/Lover’s Lane, next to the Inwood Theater)
from 5-6pm. This is an excellent opportunity for both office and field
staff to familiarize themselves and prepare for the various Certification
exams. There is no cost to attend, and all are welcome to attend and
participate. Next scheduled session will be before the November 18th
Chapter meeting at Cantina Laredo Restaurant. For questions/info, contact
John Pierce at 214-532-1667.
CST Exam on December
13th at North Lake College
Spaces are still available for those
interested in taking the Certified Survey Technician tests. John Pierce
will proctor exams at North Lake College. Examinees can take it online, and
receive instant exam results, or take a paper copy exam and wait a couple of
months for results. For details, contact John
Pierce at 214-631-7888.
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TSPS State Awards
Chapter 5 can be proud that two of its
members were recognized at the Annual Convention. First, Dallas Chapter
5 won the Star Chapter Award, in recognition of all the activities
undertaken and accomplishments achieved this past year. The Award is a
direct reflection of the leadership of Robert Schneeberg, the hard
work and efforts of Chapter 5 members, and the invaluable support of Chapter
efforts by the many firms and vendors that totally throw their support and
resources behind Chapter 5.
Jason Jernigan was nominated by
Chapter 5 members and won the Young Surveyor of
the Year Award. What an honor for Jason, but truly deserving given his
steady involvement in Chapter matters over the past 2-3 years, including the
establishment and coordination of the popular and worthy SIT/RPLS Exam Study
Group. Finally, Chris Freeman was honored as the Chapter President of
the Year Award, which actually was a reflection of the Chapter’s success
during his tenure in 2006-2007. So, all in all, a very strong showing by
the Chapter, and a direct reflection upon its members and supporters.
Let’s keep up the pace we have established, as one of the benefits is that
others statewide see what we are doing and join in, making our association
strong and vibrant. Enthusiasm is contagious….CATCH IT!!!
TSPS Chapter 5 won the
“Star Chapter” Award from TSPS
Article was submitted by Anne
Glasgow, Executive Director of TSPS.
STAR CHAPTER AWARD 2008
The Star Chapter Award was created to recognize the successful efforts by
our chapters to promote TSPS, the profession of surveying, and the
activities created by local chapters around the state. All the chapters are
working diligently to enhance the image of surveying in the state of Texas
and to grow membership so the choice of Star Chapter is always a difficult
one. I would like to take just a few moments to summarize the activities of
the winner—Dallas Chapter #5.
The chapter meets monthly with many special projects and events scattered
throughout the year. Each meeting they host a speaker and the topics have
ranged widely: Doug Turner spoke on TBPLS issues, a program on Wetland
Delineation and Tree Surveys, updates on TSPS issues by Coleen Johnson, NSPS
Technician Certification, an attorney presented a program on Deposition
Preparation and so on. It is no wonder their attendance rarely falls below
50 with such timely and interesting topics.
For several years members of the Dallas Chapter have set up a survey display
at the Garland Library. This display has grown and attracted the attention
of so many library patrons the members have been asked to provide a survey
program as part of the library’s Creative Kids event. This one display has
informed many members of the general public about the surveying profession.
The chapter is actively searching for more venues that will provide them
with display opportunities throughout the year.
Two events have long been on the calendar for the Dallas Chapter. The first
is their TSPS Day at the Races at Lone Star Park. Nearly 100 participants
attended the fun event this spring. The second event is the annual Tim
Mireur Memorial Golf Tournament that raises funds for educating chapter 5
This chapter seeks out opportunities to educate and to support educational
events around the state. They have funded and made donations to Skills USA,
the High School Educators retreat, and they are providing staff support for
3 credit courses at North Lake College. Additionally students at North Lake
College were the recipients of textbooks and calculators for their survey
Dallas Chapter keeps their membership informed via a newsletter that is
published digitally and lives on their website. It is very interesting to
see all the articles and announcements there and I encourage other chapters
to visit the site and gather some of the great ideas this chapter has
The chapter also generously supports Trig Star, SurPAC and the TSPS annual
convention. Also recognized for excellence this year are some of their great
chapter volunteers: Chris Freeman, immediate past president has been honored
with Chapter President of the Year and Jason Jernigan was selected to
receive Young Surveyor of the Year Award. Jason has for several years been
teaching an exam prep course that many in the chapter area have benefitted
The list of accomplishments from the Dallas Chapter is not exhausted by what
you have heard in this report but I’m sure you get a sense of the great work
they are doing. Dallas Chapter #5 is exemplifying the intent of the Star
Chapter award and I would ask you to join me in acknowledging their winning
SIT & RPLS Exam
Since the recent licensing and
certification examinations were just held in late October, the Study
Groups will take a breather. They will probably regroup after the New
Year to begin preparation for the April exams. In the meantime,
candidates should organize their study materials and outline a study
schedule. Also, attending the Certified Survey Technician exam prep
classes before the Chapter 5 monthly meetings is another good way to keep
tuned in to subject matter.
Bulletin Board Odds ‘n Ends….
Welcome New Members!
transferred from the Austin Chapter. Although living in Albuquerque, Dennis has
frequent visits and business in the Metroplex and Texas.
On the Horizon….
The next Chapter 5 meeting will be held
Tuesday November 18th at the Cantina Laredo Restaurant on Lover’s
Lane. Guest Speaker will be State Senator John Carona. Also,
TSPS SurPac Chairman Bob Seipel will be attending to update members on
the upcoming legislative session, and the importance of SurPac to our
profession to protect and strengthen our interests. Annual recognition
awards will also be presented by Past President Robert Schneeberg. Come
join us, this will also be the first meeting with new President Bob
With new Chapter leaders comes the need
for continued participation by Chapter members. The strength of any
volunteer organization is only as strong as the participation of its
members. Committees are always in need of people to lead and contribute.
There are typically 5 standing committees: Membership, Program, Public
Relations & Education, Nominating, and Audit. In addition, the President
can assign a Special Committee if so desired. If interested in being part
of the solution and helping our Chapter and profession move forward, please
contact any of the Chapter officers.
Career Day & School Presentations
Chris Freeman has been invited to
present to four groups of 8th graders (60-80 total) at Sellers
Middle School on Wednesday November 12th. This will be the 4th
year in a row that Chris has participated in their Career Day.
Tim Jackson spent 2 days in October
participating in the Duncanville High School Engineering Technology Career
Day activities. Tim spoke to 8 groups of students, a total of approximately
150 students, about careers in the surveying profession. Tim also utilized
one of the Career videos available through TSPS. Barton Burnett said the
visit paid off, as students interested in the Survey module increased
---next TBPLS Board Meeting to be
held Friday December 12th in Austin. The TBPLS awads 4
CEU’s to attendees.
---next TSPS Board Meeting to be
held on February 7, 2009 at the Radisson Hotel in Austin.
Tech Tips………….by Charlie Siever of
It is something that is on everyone’s mind, or should be. Outside of work, I
have long had a passion for race cars and racing. I have been involved in
working races at various levels, including SCCA, NASCAR, Champ Car, Indy Car,
and Formula 1. After working on race tracks for the last 20 years I've learned a
few things that would relate to surveying.
Never turn your
back on oncoming traffic!
It is hard to run when you can't see them coming! Can't face traffic? Then
have someone watch your back. Race car drivers get distracted just like
civilian drivers. Best park your truck behind you, but still have someone watch
Make sure you
have cones set up & wear your safety vest.
On the track, we try to communicate with drivers with radios & flags. You could
have someone behind you waving a flag. Race car drivers key on movement, or are
at least they are supposed to. Track corner workers wear white clothing on road
courses & yellow at NASCAR races.
Just remember, working
on a busy street is more dangerous than the race track!
Race officials deal with trained professional drivers, unfortunately survey
field crews do not. Anyone who has stood along a highway can attest to the
danger that exists….get your work done safely and get out of there.
Click here for links to
various Safety websites that might be helpful to your firm and staff.
Safety First…..Make it a
UPCOMING CHAPTER 5 MEETINGS & SPECIAL EVENTS:
December 2008--- No Meeting; Happy Holidays, See ya’ll in 2009
January 13 --- TSPS
President Michael Parker & TSPS Legislative Liason Pat Smith
February 10 --- Nedra
Foster, Chairperson of TBPLS
March 10 --- Jack Avis:
GIS as a Survey Tool
April 14 ---
Speaker/Program to be determined
May 12 ---
Speaker/Program to be determined
Chapter Golf Tournament
--- date to be determined
June 9 --- Glenn
Breysacher/Wayne Terry: Vacancy in Garland?
July 14 --- Rob Hathaway,
Delorme GIS: Geocaching for fun
August 11 ---
Speaker/Program to be determined
September ? --- Joint
Meeting with Chapter 2
October 22-24 --- TSPS
Annual Convention in Austin
November 10 --- Speaker/Program to be
---next TBPLS Board Meeting to
be held Friday December 12th in Austin. The TBPLS awads
4 CEU’s to attendees.
---next TSPS Board Meeting to
be held on February 7, 2009 at the Radisson Hotel in Austin.
Chapter 5 Meetings are
Cantina LAREDO Restaurant
165 Inwood Village, Dallas, TX 75209
(Southeast Corner of Inwood & Lover’s Lane, next to Inwood Theater)
Social/Dinner Time: 6:00 pm – 7:00 pm (order from the menu)
Chapter Meeting: Business @ 7:00 pm, Program @ 7:30
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